Discussing cheikh anta diop s two cradle

This is the main element which enables domination to last long. Without that, domination ends up collapsing sooner or later. It can be an initiating element but, alone, it does not enable a continuous domination. That is the final goal but it can exist only if the first two steps are correctly implemented.

Untitled[ edit ] Of course, it is necessary to put a link of opponents to Diop. The major part of the link criticises legitimately the stupid, irrelevant and counterproductive exaggerations of advocators of Black Athena.

Anyway, the link is irrelevant since it was not the core of the work of Diop. Please, find a new link less polemic and only about the work of Anta Diop not one that is mixing everything. Error of a newbie sorry for it.

Anyway, facts have not changed and I really don't think that the last link is relevant. We definitely need a link of an opponent but not one with only two sentences against Diop and about the most controversial of these books among more than lines!

It is not about the core of the work of Diop. Could this section be either compressed, or turned to a summary? Trying to read a massive statement on each work makes the page very hard to read or understand. But this article seems exclusively about racial stuff which I view as secondary.

Recent work showing that Archimedes got to the foundations of calculus 2, years before Newton supports Diop's thesis. He is in no way an authority on race as an anthropological or genetically based concept.

Further, there is no evidence that Sub-Saharan Africans were unable to migrate outside of that region. Both Mali and Niger find themselves in the Sahara region, while the majority of their populations are visibly Africoid some of the darkest people on earth.

Migration up from Sub-Saharan Africa has occured since the first men left the continent. There has also been long established trade between Africans from all parts of the Continent dating back to prehistory. Sickle-cell anemia, so often thought of as an African disease, while it reaches high frequencies in some parts of sub-Saharan Africa, it did not originate there.

Finally in Africa? Egypt, from Diop to Celenko. - EgyptSearch Forums

Its distribution includes southern Italy, the eastern Mediterranean, parts of the Middle East, and over into India.

It would appear that the gene that controls that trait was introduced to sub-Saharan Africa by traders from those parts of the Middle East where it had arisen in conjunction with the conditions created by the early development of agriculture.

Indeed, the term Caucasoid attempts to group geographically, cultural, ethnically, and historically divergent groups into one board homogeneous one. For example, Semites and Indo-Europeans share virtually no relationship with one another either historically or in ethnic terms.

Indeed, the one trait shared by these groups is simply a nose that is neither Negro nor Mongoloid.

Article is garbage[ edit ] Celebration of racialist nutcase Diop is not going to be tolerated. At best a hack. At worst a bitterly racist loon. I think these two facts show that he is more than a "nutcase" or a "crackpot" as you say.

The article as it is, including your latest modifications which removed some biased remarks except for the equally-biased word "crackpot" that should be replaced by something elsedoesn't seem too bad to me.

Of course I would like to see more explanations about his theories and about the arguments of the people who don't agree with him, but the article is not particularly biased. Does it bother you that some of the last archaelogical discoveries of this decade can confirm a part of the work of Diop?

Are you agains facts? How exactly do Charles Bonnet's discoveries about Kerma "shed some light" upon Diop's theories? Apparently, Bonnet says that Kerma was a black kingdom with a brilliant culture which leaders rules over Egypt for a while XXVth dynasty.

This is very different from saying that Egypt as a whole was black and that its culture owes a lot to Black African culture.

I think the paragraph should be rewritten in a way or another because it's not clear and the links to Kerma and Blombos cave don't help much since they say nothing about Diop. It has surely to be improved but not deleted!

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Diop was one of the first scientist to assume existence of black civilizations when history was highly biased by racism.

Kerma or Blombo's discoveries give some credit to the "essence" of the Diop's theories. It is not a detail! Diop's ideas have had a great heuristic power even if there are many mistakes in these works. Use of anti-intellectual, inflammatory terms like "loon" and such are a complete waste of time.

Diop A Hack[ edit ] If he was such a hack, then why was his work only critized and never proven wrong by the "scholars?

Doesn't sound like much of a hack to me!Download Citation on ResearchGate | Cheikh Anta Diop's Two Cradle TheoryRevisited | For many scholars, the concept of race to discuss the ancient Egyptians is a modern ideological and social. This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Cheikh Anta Diop Whether or not Cheikh Anta Diop's supporters see the labeling of his theories as "Afrocentric," derogatory is completely beside the point.

Two of Diop’s main themes are the political importance of demonstrating the cultural and linguistic unity of Africa and the. Anta Diop’s two cradle theory, presented in his seminal work (see Diop, ). In the book, Diop examines the historic origins of African culture and contends that there was cultural unity.

Diop's first work translated into English, The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality, was published in It gained a much wider audience for his work. He proved that archaeological and anthropological evidence supported his view Cheikh Anta Diop was an Afrocentric historian, anthropologist, physicist and politician who studied the /5.

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Diop's first work translated into English, The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality, was published in It gained a much wider audience for his work.

He proved that archaeological and anthropological evidence supported his view Cheikh Anta Diop was an Afrocentric historian, anthropologist, physicist and politician who studied the /5.

- Cheikh Anta Diop, taken from The African Origin of Civilisation. For many years now there has been a debate about whether the ancient peoples of the Nile Valley were 'black' or 'white'.